Comments on: The Obama “Hope” Poster Case — How Was the Poster Created? http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/02/27/the-obama-%e2%80%9chope%e2%80%9d-poster-case-%e2%80%94-how-was-the-poster-created/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:08:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sage Ross http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/02/27/the-obama-%e2%80%9chope%e2%80%9d-poster-case-%e2%80%94-how-was-the-poster-created/comment-page-1/#comment-26306 Sage Ross Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:24:45 +0000 http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/?p=3970#comment-26306 "...I’ve been meaning to blog about this interview with Fairey last month on NPR that I came across..." I.e., you weren't looking for information about the Fairey case, you just stumbled across it. Happenstance, really. ;) Great series of posts. Thanks for this. “…I’ve been meaning to blog about this interview with Fairey last month on NPR that I came across…”

I.e., you weren’t looking for information about the Fairey case, you just stumbled across it. Happenstance, really. ;)

Great series of posts. Thanks for this.

]]> By: Jesse Dill http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/02/27/the-obama-%e2%80%9chope%e2%80%9d-poster-case-%e2%80%94-how-was-the-poster-created/comment-page-1/#comment-13992 Jesse Dill Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:03:51 +0000 http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/?p=3970#comment-13992 Shepard Fairey was on the Rachel Maddow show over break (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hBtpy07WCQ or the original video can be viewed at the Rachel Maddow Show website under the March 13 video). In the last of the six minute segment he talks about the Obama image suit. Unfortunately, he doesn't go into detail about how he produced the image. Shepard Fairey was on the Rachel Maddow show over break (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hBtpy07WCQ or the original video can be viewed at the Rachel Maddow Show website under the March 13 video). In the last of the six minute segment he talks about the Obama image suit. Unfortunately, he doesn’t go into detail about how he produced the image.

]]> By: Bruce E. Boyden http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/02/27/the-obama-%e2%80%9chope%e2%80%9d-poster-case-%e2%80%94-how-was-the-poster-created/comment-page-1/#comment-13991 Bruce E. Boyden Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:12:01 +0000 http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/?p=3970#comment-13991 Very interesting on all counts, Hugh, thanks, and I look forward to the blog post. Very interesting on all counts, Hugh, thanks, and I look forward to the blog post.

]]> By: Hugh D'Andrade http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/02/27/the-obama-%e2%80%9chope%e2%80%9d-poster-case-%e2%80%94-how-was-the-poster-created/comment-page-1/#comment-13990 Hugh D'Andrade Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:28:15 +0000 http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/?p=3970#comment-13990 I heard that interview too, and was confused by his statement that when the campaign wanted to use his work officially, they asked if he could work from a photo for which they controlled the rights. Which version is he referring too? Sounds like he used photoshop to increase the contrast before printing and re-drawing -- a common technique. (I often draw from photos myself and do this.) I do think "hand-illustrated" refers to the same exacto razor method. There is a quality to the shapes that rubylith cut with a razor has, and I recognized it right away in the HOpe piece. You could get a similar look with vector lines in Adobe Illustrator, but it would be mimicing the razor look. (All Fairey work has this quality.) You also asked about whether a photoshop file that has been edited and re-saved with changes would retain the metadata. I did some tests with a technologist yesterday, and the answer is yes. You could easily remove that data, but you would have to do it intentionally. I have a blog post on all this coming up that I will send. H. I heard that interview too, and was confused by his statement that when the campaign wanted to use his work officially, they asked if he could work from a photo for which they controlled the rights. Which version is he referring too?

Sounds like he used photoshop to increase the contrast before printing and re-drawing — a common technique. (I often draw from photos myself and do this.)

I do think “hand-illustrated” refers to the same exacto razor method. There is a quality to the shapes that rubylith cut with a razor has, and I recognized it right away in the HOpe piece. You could get a similar look with vector lines in Adobe Illustrator, but it would be mimicing the razor look. (All Fairey work has this quality.)

You also asked about whether a photoshop file that has been edited and re-saved with changes would retain the metadata. I did some tests with a technologist yesterday, and the answer is yes. You could easily remove that data, but you would have to do it intentionally.

I have a blog post on all this coming up that I will send.

H.

]]> By: Bruce Boyden http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/02/27/the-obama-%e2%80%9chope%e2%80%9d-poster-case-%e2%80%94-how-was-the-poster-created/comment-page-1/#comment-13840 Bruce Boyden Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:18:19 +0000 http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/?p=3970#comment-13840 Thanks Hugh, that's really helpful. Fairey's normal method sounds a bit like Jeffrey Koons's collage in the Blanch v. Koons case. But I've been meaning to blog about this interview with Fairey last month on NPR that I came across: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101182453 . In this interview, Fairey says that he made various alterations to the image he used, and that the Hope poster is "a hand-illustrated image that I also did some digital tweaks to before I started illustrating it." (16:25) "Hand-illustrated" doesn't sound like it's describing the method seen in the Time video, but maybe he's using the term loosely. Thanks Hugh, that’s really helpful. Fairey’s normal method sounds a bit like Jeffrey Koons’s collage in the Blanch v. Koons case. But I’ve been meaning to blog about this interview with Fairey last month on NPR that I came across: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101182453 . In this interview, Fairey says that he made various alterations to the image he used, and that the Hope poster is “a hand-illustrated image that I also did some digital tweaks to before I started illustrating it.” (16:25) “Hand-illustrated” doesn’t sound like it’s describing the method seen in the Time video, but maybe he’s using the term loosely.

]]> By: Hugh D'Andrade http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/02/27/the-obama-%e2%80%9chope%e2%80%9d-poster-case-%e2%80%94-how-was-the-poster-created/comment-page-1/#comment-13738 Hugh D'Andrade Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:29:36 +0000 http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/?p=3970#comment-13738 Here's the link showing Fairey's rubylith technique, on the Time Magazine image. Safe to assume that he used the same technique for Hope. http://www.time.com/time/specials/2008/personoftheyear/article/0,31682,1861543_1861856_1867342,00.html Here’s the link showing Fairey’s rubylith technique, on the Time Magazine image. Safe to assume that he used the same technique for Hope.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2008/personoftheyear/article/0,31682,1861543_1861856_1867342,00.html

]]> By: Hugh D'Andrade http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/02/27/the-obama-%e2%80%9chope%e2%80%9d-poster-case-%e2%80%94-how-was-the-poster-created/comment-page-1/#comment-13728 Hugh D'Andrade Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:59:11 +0000 http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/?p=3970#comment-13728 I believe that Fairey uses photographs by printing them out, cutting rubylith (transparent red film) with an exacto knife, and then scanning the rubylith and applying color to that in photoshop. I'll try to find some video documentation on that, but it's what I remember from things I have seen. I believe that Fairey uses photographs by printing them out, cutting rubylith (transparent red film) with an exacto knife, and then scanning the rubylith and applying color to that in photoshop. I’ll try to find some video documentation on that, but it’s what I remember from things I have seen.

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