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		<title>By: Sean Samis</title>
		<link>http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/11/02/thinking-about-recusal-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-26842</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Samis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor, you did suggest we can trust a judge’s subjective determination. (“Suggest” is the verb I used an’ I’m stickin’ with it.)  Suggesting we should not trust the judge’s subjective determination contradicts the entire thrust of your post.

My point is that $10,000 constitutes “an objectively perceived potential for bias that overrides a judge’s belief that she can, nevertheless, be impartial.”  I cannot think of any place in life where a “gift” of $10,000 would NOT ALWAYS create a potential for bias.

You wrote that a $10,000 gift might not create a potential for bias when millions have been spent.  But of course those millions are accumulated one gift at a time.  No person needing to raise millions can reasonably afford to risk even one $10,000 donation.

You wrote that there might be no potential for bias when money has been spent by “an advocacy group that supports a particular outcome because of the rule of law it will create.”  If a judicial candidate has committed themself to a particular outcome, their bias is established.  If such candidates are elected, parties to actual cases would not get a fair hearing. 

Courts can TRY to make clear that their rules are inconsistent with certain criticisms, but in this case the Court can only ask us to trust them not to be influenced by money and self-interest because the rule IS CONSISTENT with the criticism.

You wrote that “The rules ... proposed by LWV and Justice Bablitch would have made it effectively impossible for advocacy groups to be involved in statewide races in any effective way.”  Not so.  It would have reduced their effectiveness to the same level as any other group with the same number of members.

When considering the proper standards of jurisprudence, there are obviously many things a Court must consider.  Their own re-election is not one of those things.  Judges, at least at the appellate level, should not be elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor, you did suggest we can trust a judge’s subjective determination. (“Suggest” is the verb I used an’ I’m stickin’ with it.)  Suggesting we should not trust the judge’s subjective determination contradicts the entire thrust of your post.</p>
<p>My point is that $10,000 constitutes “an objectively perceived potential for bias that overrides a judge’s belief that she can, nevertheless, be impartial.”  I cannot think of any place in life where a “gift” of $10,000 would NOT ALWAYS create a potential for bias.</p>
<p>You wrote that a $10,000 gift might not create a potential for bias when millions have been spent.  But of course those millions are accumulated one gift at a time.  No person needing to raise millions can reasonably afford to risk even one $10,000 donation.</p>
<p>You wrote that there might be no potential for bias when money has been spent by “an advocacy group that supports a particular outcome because of the rule of law it will create.”  If a judicial candidate has committed themself to a particular outcome, their bias is established.  If such candidates are elected, parties to actual cases would not get a fair hearing. </p>
<p>Courts can TRY to make clear that their rules are inconsistent with certain criticisms, but in this case the Court can only ask us to trust them not to be influenced by money and self-interest because the rule IS CONSISTENT with the criticism.</p>
<p>You wrote that “The rules &#8230; proposed by LWV and Justice Bablitch would have made it effectively impossible for advocacy groups to be involved in statewide races in any effective way.”  Not so.  It would have reduced their effectiveness to the same level as any other group with the same number of members.</p>
<p>When considering the proper standards of jurisprudence, there are obviously many things a Court must consider.  Their own re-election is not one of those things.  Judges, at least at the appellate level, should not be elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard M. Esenberg</title>
		<link>http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/11/02/thinking-about-recusal-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-26827</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard M. Esenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean

I did not say - please read again - that we should trust a judge&#039;s subjective determination. I said that the mere fact of a $10,000 contribution or expenditure won&#039;t should not always override that determination.

There may be - Caperton is an example - circumstances when there is an objectively perceived potential for bias that overrides a judge&#039;s belief that she can, nevertheless, be impartial.

The circumstances in which a $10000 gift would not create a potential for bias may be those in which millions have been spent. They may be those in which the money has been spent, not by a party to litigation, but by an advocacy group that supports a particular outcome because of the rule of law it will create.

Of course, people are free to criticize the court but that doesn&#039;t mean that the court can&#039;t make clear that its rules are inconsistent with certain criticisms.

The rules that were proposed by LWV and Justice Bablitch would have made it effectively impossible for advocacy groups to be involved in statewide races in any effective way. This would not only be groups like WMC, but the Greater Wisconsin Committee, labor unions and plaintiffs&#039; bar.

Tom&#039;s criticisms really suggest that judges ought not to be elected and maybe they shouldn&#039;t. (I&#039;m agnostic on that.) But there is, as a practical matter, no way that this will change in Wisconsin any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean</p>
<p>I did not say &#8211; please read again &#8211; that we should trust a judge&#8217;s subjective determination. I said that the mere fact of a $10,000 contribution or expenditure won&#8217;t should not always override that determination.</p>
<p>There may be &#8211; Caperton is an example &#8211; circumstances when there is an objectively perceived potential for bias that overrides a judge&#8217;s belief that she can, nevertheless, be impartial.</p>
<p>The circumstances in which a $10000 gift would not create a potential for bias may be those in which millions have been spent. They may be those in which the money has been spent, not by a party to litigation, but by an advocacy group that supports a particular outcome because of the rule of law it will create.</p>
<p>Of course, people are free to criticize the court but that doesn&#8217;t mean that the court can&#8217;t make clear that its rules are inconsistent with certain criticisms.</p>
<p>The rules that were proposed by LWV and Justice Bablitch would have made it effectively impossible for advocacy groups to be involved in statewide races in any effective way. This would not only be groups like WMC, but the Greater Wisconsin Committee, labor unions and plaintiffs&#8217; bar.</p>
<p>Tom&#8217;s criticisms really suggest that judges ought not to be elected and maybe they shouldn&#8217;t. (I&#8217;m agnostic on that.) But there is, as a practical matter, no way that this will change in Wisconsin any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Foley</title>
		<link>http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/11/02/thinking-about-recusal-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-26811</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Foley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;They permit unwarranted attacks on the legitimacy of the courts and the integrity of judges.&lt;/i&gt;

I understand you&#039;re talking about proposed rules of ethics you don&#039;t care for here, but that sentence reads far more accurately as a description of judicial elections.

In fact, it indicates almost perfectly the political strategies of Wisconsin Manufacturers &amp; Commerce and the Coalition for America&#039;s Families (or, from your perspective, Mike McCabe, although he has a lot less money and, therefore, a lot less influence).

It&#039;s always seemed to me a little disconcerting that in Wisconsin a heavy emphasis is placed on legal and personal ethics in law school, in the criteria for admission to the bar, and in annual continuing legal education requirements, but when it comes to electing judges, we accept this multi-million-dollar free-for-all of disreputable behavior and then blithely chalk it all down to the First Amendment, which was drafted by people who likely would have been horrified by many of these more recent shenanigans.

Interesting also that among the (&quot;conservative&quot;) justices who inquired of the petitioners if the groups they represented had a view as to whether judges should be popularly elected or appointed based on meritoriousness, the latter suggestion was implicitly treated as some kind of heresy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They permit unwarranted attacks on the legitimacy of the courts and the integrity of judges.</i></p>
<p>I understand you&#8217;re talking about proposed rules of ethics you don&#8217;t care for here, but that sentence reads far more accurately as a description of judicial elections.</p>
<p>In fact, it indicates almost perfectly the political strategies of Wisconsin Manufacturers &amp; Commerce and the Coalition for America&#8217;s Families (or, from your perspective, Mike McCabe, although he has a lot less money and, therefore, a lot less influence).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always seemed to me a little disconcerting that in Wisconsin a heavy emphasis is placed on legal and personal ethics in law school, in the criteria for admission to the bar, and in annual continuing legal education requirements, but when it comes to electing judges, we accept this multi-million-dollar free-for-all of disreputable behavior and then blithely chalk it all down to the First Amendment, which was drafted by people who likely would have been horrified by many of these more recent shenanigans.</p>
<p>Interesting also that among the (&#8220;conservative&#8221;) justices who inquired of the petitioners if the groups they represented had a view as to whether judges should be popularly elected or appointed based on meritoriousness, the latter suggestion was implicitly treated as some kind of heresy.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Samis</title>
		<link>http://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2009/11/02/thinking-about-recusal-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-26808</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Samis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry to say I cannot agree with much of Professor Esenberg’s post at all.

Professor Esenberg equates raising “meaningful sums of money” in judicial campaigns with “public participation” in them.  He writes that efforts to rein in such fund raising are a “massive assault on public participation”.  This is a red herring.  There are few people who have sufficient discretionary funds to give $1000 to political campaigns, much less the “more reasonable” $10,000.

Professor Esenberg also wrote that stiff limits “would ... strongly tilt the playing field in favor of incumbents.”  This is another red herring.  There are ways to improve a challenger’s chances in judicial elections without resorting to bribing both candidates and inciting scorched-earth, media-driven campaigns.  Nor is public funding necessary.  All that is required is some imagination.  We used to be able to do this cleanly and without big money.  Why can’t we again?

I have always understood  Professor Esenberg to be a proponent of judicial restraint (predicated on a healthy distrust of judicial discretion).  But I must have been mistaken because here he tells us that we can trust judges to decide whether to act against their self-interest.  He suggests we should trust  judges’ “subjective determination that she can decide the matter impartially.”  Where significant amounts of money are involved in what is supposed to be a just and impartial decision, suspicion of improper influence is reasonable and warranted.  The danger of abuse of discretion in any matter becomes greater when large amounts of money are involved.

Professor Esenberg also writes that he does not “think it is fair to say that such a contribution [$10,000] would always create a potential for bias.”  Except in politics, I cannot think of any place in life where a “gift” of $10,000 would NOT ALWAYS create a potential for bias.

This is especially problematic when a decision to recuse will directly impact a Judge’s ability to raise funds in the future.  To voluntarily recuse is to say you cannot be bought; in which case there is no point in giving you more money.  There are always other candidates.

Professor Esenberg laments that “recusal standards that [are] read more broadly than they can or should be applied ... permit unwarranted attacks on the legitimacy of the courts and the integrity of judges” This concern is misplaced.  The First Amendment permits unwarranted attacks on the legitimacy of courts, the integrity of judges and pretty much anything else.  What should concern us is weak and narrowly construed rules which give SUBSTANCE and VALIDITY to attacks on judicial integrity.

Professor Esenberg writes that the biggest problem is “the suggestion that an ‘indirect interest’ might create cause for recusal. ... I am concerned that ... it may be read to imply a broad duty to recuse based upon supporter’s ideological interest ... that the predisposition to a particular legal position is ... improper bias.”
This I believe is another red herring.  Criticism of certain judges and courts for their perceived predispositions is not new.  Some people will try to read “indirect interest” too broadly, that is not a greater hazard than reading direct interest too narrowly.  Professor Esenberg suggests the rules adopted by the court could be improved.  Yes indeed; and clarifying “indirect interest” or “support” is one improvement.  But when we recall that the State Bar suggested that the Court wait until they got a better rule, and the Court rejected that sound advice to pick a poor rule, the Court could hardly be said to have “gotten it right”.

The Court’s current “rule” (which is more like the absence of a rule) puts the cart before the horse.  The essential asset of the Judiciary is our trust in their impartiality and integrity.  Mechanisms for ensuring competitive elections are many and important, but no such mechanism should be chosen at the cost of making trust in the Courts unreasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry to say I cannot agree with much of Professor Esenberg’s post at all.</p>
<p>Professor Esenberg equates raising “meaningful sums of money” in judicial campaigns with “public participation” in them.  He writes that efforts to rein in such fund raising are a “massive assault on public participation”.  This is a red herring.  There are few people who have sufficient discretionary funds to give $1000 to political campaigns, much less the “more reasonable” $10,000.</p>
<p>Professor Esenberg also wrote that stiff limits “would &#8230; strongly tilt the playing field in favor of incumbents.”  This is another red herring.  There are ways to improve a challenger’s chances in judicial elections without resorting to bribing both candidates and inciting scorched-earth, media-driven campaigns.  Nor is public funding necessary.  All that is required is some imagination.  We used to be able to do this cleanly and without big money.  Why can’t we again?</p>
<p>I have always understood  Professor Esenberg to be a proponent of judicial restraint (predicated on a healthy distrust of judicial discretion).  But I must have been mistaken because here he tells us that we can trust judges to decide whether to act against their self-interest.  He suggests we should trust  judges’ “subjective determination that she can decide the matter impartially.”  Where significant amounts of money are involved in what is supposed to be a just and impartial decision, suspicion of improper influence is reasonable and warranted.  The danger of abuse of discretion in any matter becomes greater when large amounts of money are involved.</p>
<p>Professor Esenberg also writes that he does not “think it is fair to say that such a contribution [$10,000] would always create a potential for bias.”  Except in politics, I cannot think of any place in life where a “gift” of $10,000 would NOT ALWAYS create a potential for bias.</p>
<p>This is especially problematic when a decision to recuse will directly impact a Judge’s ability to raise funds in the future.  To voluntarily recuse is to say you cannot be bought; in which case there is no point in giving you more money.  There are always other candidates.</p>
<p>Professor Esenberg laments that “recusal standards that [are] read more broadly than they can or should be applied &#8230; permit unwarranted attacks on the legitimacy of the courts and the integrity of judges” This concern is misplaced.  The First Amendment permits unwarranted attacks on the legitimacy of courts, the integrity of judges and pretty much anything else.  What should concern us is weak and narrowly construed rules which give SUBSTANCE and VALIDITY to attacks on judicial integrity.</p>
<p>Professor Esenberg writes that the biggest problem is “the suggestion that an ‘indirect interest’ might create cause for recusal. &#8230; I am concerned that &#8230; it may be read to imply a broad duty to recuse based upon supporter’s ideological interest &#8230; that the predisposition to a particular legal position is &#8230; improper bias.”<br />
This I believe is another red herring.  Criticism of certain judges and courts for their perceived predispositions is not new.  Some people will try to read “indirect interest” too broadly, that is not a greater hazard than reading direct interest too narrowly.  Professor Esenberg suggests the rules adopted by the court could be improved.  Yes indeed; and clarifying “indirect interest” or “support” is one improvement.  But when we recall that the State Bar suggested that the Court wait until they got a better rule, and the Court rejected that sound advice to pick a poor rule, the Court could hardly be said to have “gotten it right”.</p>
<p>The Court’s current “rule” (which is more like the absence of a rule) puts the cart before the horse.  The essential asset of the Judiciary is our trust in their impartiality and integrity.  Mechanisms for ensuring competitive elections are many and important, but no such mechanism should be chosen at the cost of making trust in the Courts unreasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: David Strifling</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Strifling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Esenberg,

Great post.  I had planned a similar one, but I am happy to compress my thoughts into a comment since you’ve gotten things started.   My conclusion is different from yours,though, in that I am afraid there may well be a constitutional problem with the rule, at least insofar as it applies to pending cases.  You wrote that the Court is not “thumbing its nose” at Caperton, and I certainly imply no such intent.  But you also point out that the rule “make[s] clear that recusal cannot be required ‘solely’ due to lawful endorsements, contributions and independent expenditures.”

This seems reasonable to me, as it does to you.  But I do not think it is consistent with Caperton (and I note at the outset that I make no claim here that Caperton was rightly decided).   In that case, there was no allegation that the donor (Blankenship) had any improper influence over or relationship with the Justice (Benjamin), other than the perceived influence of his overwhelming financial support of Justice Benjamin’s campaign.  In short, the case was “solely” about financial campaign support, and nothing more.  And the Court concluded that recusal was required after applying the following test:

“[T]here is a serious risk of actual bias – based on objective and reasonable perceptions – when a person with a personal stake in a particular case had a significant and disproportionate influence in placing the judge on the case by raising funds or directing the judge&#039;s election campaign when the case was pending or imminent. The inquiry centers on the contribution&#039;s relative size in comparison to the total amount of money contributed to the campaign, the total amount spent in the election, and the apparent effect such contribution had on the outcome of the election.”  

It seems to me that if we transport the same facts to present-day Wisconsin, a hypothetical Justice would be required to recuse herself under Caperton, but not under the Wisconsin Supreme Court’s new rule.    What if that hypothetical Justice chose not to recuse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Esenberg,</p>
<p>Great post.  I had planned a similar one, but I am happy to compress my thoughts into a comment since you’ve gotten things started.   My conclusion is different from yours,though, in that I am afraid there may well be a constitutional problem with the rule, at least insofar as it applies to pending cases.  You wrote that the Court is not “thumbing its nose” at Caperton, and I certainly imply no such intent.  But you also point out that the rule “make[s] clear that recusal cannot be required ‘solely’ due to lawful endorsements, contributions and independent expenditures.”</p>
<p>This seems reasonable to me, as it does to you.  But I do not think it is consistent with Caperton (and I note at the outset that I make no claim here that Caperton was rightly decided).   In that case, there was no allegation that the donor (Blankenship) had any improper influence over or relationship with the Justice (Benjamin), other than the perceived influence of his overwhelming financial support of Justice Benjamin’s campaign.  In short, the case was “solely” about financial campaign support, and nothing more.  And the Court concluded that recusal was required after applying the following test:</p>
<p>“[T]here is a serious risk of actual bias – based on objective and reasonable perceptions – when a person with a personal stake in a particular case had a significant and disproportionate influence in placing the judge on the case by raising funds or directing the judge&#8217;s election campaign when the case was pending or imminent. The inquiry centers on the contribution&#8217;s relative size in comparison to the total amount of money contributed to the campaign, the total amount spent in the election, and the apparent effect such contribution had on the outcome of the election.”  </p>
<p>It seems to me that if we transport the same facts to present-day Wisconsin, a hypothetical Justice would be required to recuse herself under Caperton, but not under the Wisconsin Supreme Court’s new rule.    What if that hypothetical Justice chose not to recuse?</p>
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