{"id":24676,"date":"2015-06-26T11:50:48","date_gmt":"2015-06-26T16:50:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/?p=24676"},"modified":"2020-01-21T16:26:08","modified_gmt":"2020-01-21T22:26:08","slug":"persuading-people-who-dont-want-to-be-persuaded","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/2015\/06\/persuading-people-who-dont-want-to-be-persuaded\/","title":{"rendered":"Persuading People Who Don\u2019t Want to Be Persuaded"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I just finished a recent book by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner. If the names Levitt and Dubner sound familiar, it\u2019s because you may have heard of their popular (and interesting) <em>Freakonomics<\/em> books (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Freakonomics-Economist-Explores-Hidden-Everything\/dp\/0060731338\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1434138259&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=freakonomics&amp;pebp=1434138263950&amp;perid=01659071302C4204BA6A\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/SuperFreakonomics-Cooling-Patriotic-Prostitutes-Insurance\/dp\/0060889586\/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1434138259&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=freakonomics&amp;pebp=1434138310661&amp;perid=01659071302C4204BA6A\">here<\/a>). In the book I just finished, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Think-Like-Freak-Authors-Freakonomics\/dp\/0062218344\/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;sr=1-2&amp;qid=1434136481\">Think Like a Freak<\/a><\/em>, Levitt and Dubner set out to teach readers how to \u201cretrain [their] brain[s]\u201d so that they, too, can \u201cthink like a freak.\u201d The book defines what it means to \u201cthink like a freak\u201d (it\u2019s not a bad thing; it\u2019s critical and curious thinking with a twist), and offers its step-by-step guide. But one chapter stuck out to me as particularly relevant to lawyers (and law students): How to Persuade People Who Don\u2019t Want to Be Persuaded.<\/p>\n<p>Now, the easy thought here is that this advice will apply to brief writing. And, yes, that\u2019s true, but I think we can think of persuasion more broadly. Even a lawyer\u2019s \u201cobjective\u201d work has an element of persuasion to it. A demand letter must \u201cpersuade\u201d its reader to comply; an internal office memo must \u201cpersuade\u201d its reader that the analysis is the correct (or at least best) one.<\/p>\n<p>So, what do Levitt and Dubner say?<\/p>\n<p>First, we must \u201cunderstand how hard persuasion will be\u2014and why\u201d (168). <!--more-->The two suggest that some people you might have to persuade really don\u2019t know much about your topic and haven\u2019t thought in depth about it. (You, on the other hand, have likely thought very deeply about your topic.) For these people, their initial responses and opinions are \u201clikely based less on fact and logic than on ideology and herd thinking\u201d (172). They may, for example, have seen or heard a headline about your topic on a quick perusal of their favorite website or news network and have simply adopted that view. (Note: you cannot tell someone in this group that his thinking in based more on \u201cideology and herd thinking\u201d than on \u201cfact and logic\u201d; he\u2019d never agree. As Levitt and Dubner say, such a person \u201cis operating from a set of biases he cannot even see\u201d (172).)<\/p>\n<p>Then there are those people who have more confidence in their knowledge and tend to believe they are right (even when they\u2019re not).<\/p>\n<p>Both groups are hard to persuade: the former because \u201cit can be hard to get their attention long enough to prompt a change\u201d (172), and the latter because those are people who are heavily invested in their own opinions\u2014and heavily invested in maintaining that they are right.<\/p>\n<p>Lawyers do understand that persuasion is hard and often we\u2019re dealing more with the second group: the ones who have some knowledge about a topic and are heavily invested in their own opinions and beliefs of being right. With either group, Levitt and Dunbar suggest the following:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>\u201cIt\u2019s not me; it\u2019s you<\/em>.\u201d This tidbit all lawyers know: no matter how great and logical your argument, \u201cif it doesn\u2019t resonate for the recipient, you won\u2019t get anywhere\u201d (173). So, when persuading, we need to hook our recipients so the argument will resonate with them. How? Stories.<\/li>\n<li><em>\u201cWhy you should tell stories<\/em>.\u201d Levitt and Dubner say this is \u201cthe most powerful form of persuasion.\u201d We love stories. They capture our attention and get us invested in the outcome. We \u201cinevitably put ourselves in [the characters\u2019] shoes\u201d (183). Levitt and Dubner are quick to point out, though, that you want to tell <em>stories<\/em>, not <em>anecdotes<\/em>. The difference? \u201cAn anecdote is a snapshot, a one-dimensional shard of the big picture. It is lacking in scale, perspective, and data\u201d (181). It\u2019s the outlier, \u201cthe memorial exception that gets trotted out in an attempt to disprove a larger truth\u201d (181). A story, though, \u201cfills out the picture\u201d (182).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote><p><em>A good story . . . includes the passage of time, to show the degree constancy or change; . . . [a]nd a story lays out a daisy chain of events, to show the causes that lead up to a particular situation and the consequences that result from it (182).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Lawyers understand that brief writing is about telling stories, but Levitt and Dubner suggest that stories work for all kinds of persuasion. And, indeed, <em>Think Like a Freak<\/em> is chock-full of little stories to illustrate each chapter, and that makes for quick and entertaining reading. (See if you can figure out what King Solomon and David Lee Roth (from Van Halen) have in common\u2014Chapter 7.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Don\u2019t pretend your argument is perfect<\/em>. Nothing is perfect. And if you present something as perfect, your reader or listener will never believe you. As Levitt and Dubner say, \u201cPanaceas are almost nonexistent. If you paper over the shortcomings of your plan [argument], that only gives your opponent reason to doubt the rest of it\u201d (174).<\/li>\n<li><em>Acknowledge the strength of your opponent\u2019s argument<\/em>. This should be obvious for lawyers. The strongest arguments acknowledge the strengths of the other side. Doing so improves your credibility and also makes you appear reasonable.<\/li>\n<li><em>Keep the insults to yourself<\/em>. This also should be obvious for lawyers, but, alas, too often we hear or read about the missteps. Levitt and Dubner remind us that we humans tend not to take criticism well. It\u2019s one thing to criticize or insult <em>an argument<\/em>, but it\u2019s another to criticize or insult <em>the writer or speaker personally<\/em>. That is, I don\u2019t read Levitt and Dubner as saying you can never say someone\u2019s <em>argument<\/em> is flawed or, in a lawyer\u2019s case, that another has misinterpreted a statute or case holding. I do read Levitt and Dubner as saying you should never say the writer\/speaker is him- or herself illogical or that he or she couldn\u2019t read a grocery list properly, so we cannot trust him or her to interpret a statute or case. If you\u2019ve criticized or insulted someone, you\u2019re not going to persuade him or her.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>(For lawyers who forgot this basic tip, see, e.g., <em>Peters v. Pine Meadow Ranch Home Ass\u2019n<\/em>, 151 P.3d 962, 964, (Utah 2007) (refusing to reach the merits because petitioner\u2019s brief to state supreme court included accusations, <em>inter alia<\/em>, that the court of appeals had fabricated evidence) (from petitioner\u2019s brief: \u201c[The authoring judge] needed evidence to justify her decision . . . . There was no such evidence, so she simply fabricated it <em>sua sponte<\/em>.\u201d) and <em>In re S.C. v. Kelly E<\/em><em>., <\/em>138 Cal. App. 4th 396, 400 (2006) (slamming mother\u2019s counsel for a meritless appeal and, among <em>many<\/em> other failings, for \u201cgratuitously and wrongly insulting her client\u2019s daughter (the minor in this case) by, among other things, stating the girl\u2019s developmental disabilities make her \u2018more akin to broccoli\u2019 and belittling her complaints of sexual molestation by characterizing them as various \u2018versions of her story, worthy of the Goosebumps series for children, with which to titillate her audience.\u2019\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>While in many ways, none of what Levitt and Dubner say about persuasion should be new for lawyers, but it never hurts to hear the same message in a refreshing new way. Combine their tips here with their other suggestions on how to \u201cthink like a freak\u201d and you may find yourself with a new mindset.<\/p>\n<p>Many thanks to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nsulaw.nova.edu\/faculty\/profiles.cfm?pageid=163\">Olympia Duhart<\/a> (Nova Southeastern Shepard Broad Law Center) and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmls.edu\/directory\/profile.php?lastfirstname=Nagel_Mary\">Mary Nagel<\/a> (The John Marshall Law School), who introduced me to the book and its connections to legal writing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I just finished a recent book by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner. If the names Levitt and Dubner sound familiar, it\u2019s because you may have heard of their popular (and interesting) Freakonomics books (here and here). In the book I just finished, Think Like a Freak, Levitt and Dubner set out to teach [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":28,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ocean_post_layout":"","ocean_both_sidebars_style":"","ocean_both_sidebars_content_width":0,"ocean_both_sidebars_sidebars_width":0,"ocean_sidebar":"","ocean_second_sidebar":"","ocean_disable_margins":"enable","ocean_add_body_class":"","ocean_shortcode_before_top_bar":"","ocean_shortcode_after_top_bar":"","ocean_shortcode_before_header":"","ocean_shortcode_after_header":"","ocean_has_shortcode":"","ocean_shortcode_after_title":"","ocean_shortcode_before_footer_widgets":"","ocean_shortcode_after_footer_widgets":"","ocean_shortcode_before_footer_bottom":"","ocean_shortcode_after_footer_bottom":"","ocean_display_top_bar":"default","ocean_display_header":"default","ocean_header_style":"","ocean_center_header_left_menu":"","ocean_custom_header_template":"","ocean_custom_logo":0,"ocean_custom_retina_logo":0,"ocean_custom_logo_max_width":0,"ocean_custom_logo_tablet_max_width":0,"ocean_custom_logo_mobile_max_width":0,"ocean_custom_logo_max_height":0,"ocean_custom_logo_tablet_max_height":0,"ocean_custom_logo_mobile_max_height":0,"ocean_header_custom_menu":"","ocean_menu_typo_font_family":"","ocean_menu_typo_font_subset":"","ocean_menu_typo_font_size":0,"ocean_menu_typo_font_size_tablet":0,"ocean_menu_typo_font_size_mobile":0,"ocean_menu_typo_font_size_unit":"px","ocean_menu_typo_font_weight":"","ocean_menu_typo_font_weight_tablet":"","ocean_menu_typo_font_weight_mobile":"","ocean_menu_typo_transform":"","ocean_menu_typo_transform_tablet":"","ocean_menu_typo_transform_mobile":"","ocean_menu_typo_line_height":0,"ocean_menu_typo_line_height_tablet":0,"ocean_menu_typo_line_height_mobile":0,"ocean_menu_typo_line_height_unit":"","ocean_menu_typo_spacing":0,"ocean_menu_typo_spacing_tablet":0,"ocean_menu_typo_spacing_mobile":0,"ocean_menu_typo_spacing_unit":"","ocean_menu_link_color":"","ocean_menu_link_color_hover":"","ocean_menu_link_color_active":"","ocean_menu_link_background":"","ocean_menu_link_hover_background":"","ocean_menu_link_active_background":"","ocean_menu_social_links_bg":"","ocean_menu_social_hover_links_bg":"","ocean_menu_social_links_color":"","ocean_menu_social_hover_links_color":"","ocean_disable_title":"default","ocean_disable_heading":"default","ocean_post_title":"","ocean_post_subheading":"","ocean_post_title_style":"","ocean_post_title_background_color":"","ocean_post_title_background":0,"ocean_post_title_bg_image_position":"","ocean_post_title_bg_image_attachment":"","ocean_post_title_bg_image_repeat":"","ocean_post_title_bg_image_size":"","ocean_post_title_height":0,"ocean_post_title_bg_overlay":0.5,"ocean_post_title_bg_overlay_color":"","ocean_disable_breadcrumbs":"default","ocean_breadcrumbs_color":"","ocean_breadcrumbs_separator_color":"","ocean_breadcrumbs_links_color":"","ocean_breadcrumbs_links_hover_color":"","ocean_display_footer_widgets":"default","ocean_display_footer_bottom":"default","ocean_custom_footer_template":"","ocean_post_oembed":"","ocean_post_self_hosted_media":"","ocean_post_video_embed":"","ocean_link_format":"","ocean_link_format_target":"self","ocean_quote_format":"","ocean_quote_format_link":"post","ocean_gallery_link_images":"on","ocean_gallery_id":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[42,122],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-24676","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-legal-writing","category-public","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24676","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/28"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=24676"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24676\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":28822,"href":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24676\/revisions\/28822"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=24676"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=24676"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/law.marquette.edu\/facultyblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=24676"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}